--- title: "Deepfaked Podcast Has Joe Rogan Interview Undead Steve Jobs" description: "An entirely AI-generated conversation between (living) podcast menace \"Joe Rogan\" and the deceased Apple founder \"Steve Jobs\" now exists. Great." date: "2022-10-13" modified: "2022-10-13" authors: - name: "Maggie Harrison Dupré" job_title: "Senior Staff Writer" link: "https://futurism.com/authors/mharrison" url: "https://futurism.com/the-byte/deepfaked-podcast-joe-rogan-interview-steve-jobs" categories: - "Artificial Intelligence" tags: - "ai" - "artificial intelligence" - "joe rogan" - "the digest" --- # Deepfaked Podcast Has Joe Rogan Interview Undead Steve Jobs ![An entirely AI-generated conversation between (living) podcast menace "Joe Rogan" and the deceased Apple founder "Steve Jobs" now exists. Great.]() *\Image: Joe Rogan Experience/Getty Images/Futurism\* ## Absolutely Cursed Here's something that literally nobody asked for: an entirely AI-generated conversation between deceased Apple founder Steve Jobs and [podcast menace]() Joe Rogan, who's still very much alive. To be clear, these two definitely never conversed. The made-up conversation was created by a venture called podcast.ai, which in turn appears to have been founded by a [self-described]() "hyper-realistic," AI-powered voice generator called Play.ht. "At Play.ht," [reads the company's website](), "we believe in a future where all content creation will be generated by AI, but guided by humans, and the most creative work will depend on the human's ability to articulate their desired creation to the machine." ## Faux Jogan To Play.ht's credit, the almost-20-minute-long con-faux-sation does sound pretty convincing, though the [fake Joe Rogan]() is a bit more believable. Which isn't exactly surprising, given the fact that Rogan makes his millions by uploading an ungodly number of hours-long conversations to the internet almost every single day. AI Jobs, on the other hand, wasn't as seamless. His glitchy-sounding voice demonstrates the fact that podcast.ai had to work from a far more limited data set — which, according to the limited information listed on the company's website, included his "biography and all recordings of him we could find online." On that note, a podcast like this is arguably doing something similar to what any based-on-a-true-story film might do: take a real person or a real situation, and develop some sort of text or narrative inspired by the broader context. And in a lot of ways, it really sounded just as coherent as a standard Joe Rogan interview; the two talked technology and religion, psychedelic drugs, and work ethic. Notably, AI Jobs also took a beat to throw some undead punches at Microsoft's inability to create an aesthetically pleasing design. ## More to Come But again, this conversation wasn't real. And in an era wrought with disinformation and the ever-present race to keep up with fast-changing technologies, content like this isn't just spooky, but foreboding as well. And we're about to see a whole lot more of it. "We are building that future," continues the play.ai mission, "starting... \[with\] the emotional and expressive human-like synthetic speech generation and ability to clone any voice with perfect resemblance." Gulp. **More on AI-reborn celebs:** *[AI Dreams up What Your Fave Dead Celebs Would Look like Today]()* ## Author At Futurism, I've reported extensively on the rise of AI as a cultural and business force shaping the media industry, and more broadly how those dynamics are changing how we all consume and share information and relate to one another. I'm also fascinated by public health policy and ethics, the role of emerging tech in politics and governance — and the powerful people and forces at those intersections — climate change, and the environment. My investigation on Sports Illustrated's use of AI-generated authors with fictional biographies won a 2024 Mirror Award for "Best Story on Media Coverage of Artificial Intelligence in Journalism and the Media" from Syracuse University's SI Newhouse School, I contributed to Niemen Lab's 2025 Predictions for Journalism series, and I've discussed my work for Futurism during appearances on NPR, CNN, the BBC, the CBC, and more. I grew up in rural Pennsylvania and attended the University of Massachusetts Amherst, where I played Division I field hockey for the Minutewomen as a midfielder. Since then, I've lived in New Orleans, Louisiana and Manhattan, New York. I spend my free time running, reading, perusing archival fashion, and searching for the world’s best negroni. I also have a debonair tuxedo cat, Westley, who's named after "The Princess Bride." ### Author social links [Bluesky]()