--- title: "ChatGPT’s Dirty Secret: It’s Powered by “Grunts” Making $15 Per Hour" description: "OpenAI's finances are all over the place, but one thing is clear — none of the money it spends is going to the workers hired to train ChatGPT." date: "2023-05-10" modified: "2023-05-10" authors: - name: "Noor Al-Sibai" job_title: "Senior Staff Writer" link: "https://futurism.com/authors/nooralsibai" url: "https://futurism.com/the-byte/chatgpt-15-hour-workers" categories: - "Artificial Intelligence" - "OpenAI" tags: - "chatgpt" - "labor" - "OpenAI" - "the digest" --- # ChatGPT’s Dirty Secret: It’s Powered by “Grunts” Making $15 Per Hour ![OpenAI's finances are all over the place, but one thing is clear — none of the money it spends is going to the workers hired to train ChatGPT.]() *\Image: Getty / Futurism\* ## Training Day OpenAI's finances are [all over the place](), but one thing is clear — not much of the money it spends or earns is going to the low-wage contract workers hired to train its AI. Two OpenAI contractors [revealed to *NBC News*]() that the kind of work that goes into training large language models (LLMs) like those behind ChatGPT is very much "grunt work" — though in the case of these two individuals, they're pretty happy to be doing it. As 34-year-old Kansas City denizen and OpenAI contractor Alexej Savreux explained, the job requires a lot of boring-sounding labor: labeling photos, writing predictions for the AI, and other things that help the LLM "learn" how to generate responses better. "We are grunt workers," said Savreux, "but there would be no AI language systems without it." "You can design all the neural networks you want, you can get all the researchers involved you want, but without labelers, you have no ChatGPT," he added. "You have nothing." ## Wages of War This kind of low-wage, uninsured contract work is a staple of the machine learning industry, according to Sonam Jindal of the San Francisco-based nonprofit research firm Partnership on AI. "A lot of the discourse around AI is very congratulatory," Jindal told *NBC*. "But we’re missing a big part of the story: that this is still hugely reliant on a large human workforce." While the work and its pay rate don't exactly seem sexy, Savreaux credits his work-from-home AI training gig that brought him $15 per hour, which is above Missouri's $12 minimum wage, with helping to pull him out of homelessness. "People sometimes minimize these necessary, laborious jobs," he said. "It’s the necessary, entry-level area of machine learning." Jatin Kumar, a 22-year-old recent college graduate in Texas, echoed that sentiment when telling *NBC* about his postgrad job as an OpenAI conversational trainer, which he says is helping him work towards building his own startup. "Initially, it started off as a way for me to help out at OpenAI and learn about existing technologies,” Kumar said. "But now, I can’t see myself stepping away from this role." **More on AI workers:** [*OpenAI's Content Moderators Just Unionized in Africa*]() ## Author At Futurism, I've often been drawn to unpacking the narratives that underlie technological, scientific and medical progress, with a special interest in areas of conflict and ambiguity that end up setting agendas and steering the fates of both elites and the hoi polloi. I'm a committed generalist, but I often find myself returning to work involving NASA and the private space sector, the effects of AI on media and society, and the mechanics of the pharmaceutical industry, with a specific focus on the spread of GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy. Prior to Futurism, I worked for publications ranging from Media Matters and Truthdig to Raw Story and Bustle. I'm also the author of "Myspace Scene Queens," a 2024 title in Instar Books' acclaimed "Remember the Internet" series. My work at Futurism has been cited by outlets including the New Yorker, Slate, Nieman Lab, the Verge, the MIT Technology Review, the Sunday Times, and the Daily Beast. I grew up in North Carolina, attended the University of North Carolina at Asheville, and now live in Brooklyn, New York. In my free time, I'm an avid reader and music fan; you can probably find me at a local poetry reading, concert, underground rave, or DJ set. I'm the proud parent of an ineffable orange cat named Mee-Mow. ### Author social links [Bluesky]()