--- title: "If You Think Joe Rogan Is Credible, This Bizarre Clip of Him Yelling at a Scientist Will Probably Change Your Mind" description: "Podcaster Joe Rogan is once again in the news for being an anti-science dimwit — and even a quick perusal of his past shows that this isn't the first time." date: "2022-01-15" modified: "2022-01-15" authors: - name: "Noor Al-Sibai" job_title: "Senior Staff Writer" link: "https://futurism.com/authors/nooralsibai" url: "https://futurism.com/joe-rogan-yelling-scientist" categories: - "Future Society" tags: - "conspiracy theories" - "joe rogan" - "misinformation" - "vaccines" --- # If You Think Joe Rogan Is Credible, This Bizarre Clip of Him Yelling at a Scientist Will Probably Change Your Mind ![Podcaster Joe Rogan is once again in the news for being an anti-science dimwit — and even a quick perusal of his past shows that this isn't the first time.]() *\Image: Michael S. Schwartz/Getty Images\* Podcaster Joe Rogan is once again in the news for [being an anti-science dimwit]() — and even a quick perusal of his past statements shows that this isn't exactly the first time. This week, hundreds of medical experts [signed an open letter condemning Rogan]() and Spotify, the streaming company that owns exclusive rights to his podcast "The Joe Rogan Experience," for spreading misinformation on his uber-popular show since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic. Rogan has insisted on inviting problematic guests on his show and spewing his own vile rhetoric [long before 2020](), the year he inked a deal with Spotify reportedly worth more than $100 million. Many see Rogan as a well-intentioned [psychedelics enthusiast]() who's simply too invested in the concept of free speech to recognize that many of his guests hold dangerous ideas. A recently-resurfaced clip of Rogan absolutely losing it on a primatologist, however, throws water on that theory — in much the same way scientific facts tend to quash the misguided nonsense he and his guests often spout on the show. After spending roughly five minutes going off about a now-debunked pseudoscientific theory of the "[Bondo ape]()" — a purported Congolese super-ape that supposedly could walk upright like a human and was hyper-aggressive — Rogan took a call from a Floridian primatologist who identified herself only as "Allison." She countered that "there's no such thing as a Bondo ape" — but before she could even finish her sentence, the host was jumping down her throat, calling her a "fucking idiot" and telling the PhD scientist that she should go "online" and look it up. No, we're not making this up. Back in reality, of course, the Bondo or "Bili" ape theory was debunked in the early 2000s when [scientists discovered via DNA tests]() that the species actually belonged to the common chimpanzee. The credibility of the Bondo ape, in other words, lies somewhere between Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster. To her credit, the primatologist fought valiantly in the face of Rogan's childish derision as he repeatedly called her "stupid" and suggested she was simply behind the times, citing dubious research to back up his claims. At the end of the segment, after the primatologist was disconnected, Rogan continued to make fun of her, including mocking her for having a vagina — a preposterously sexist barb that should give anybody listening to his show pause. Though it's unclear when this clip actually aired, it likely dates back to around the time period when Rogan was gaining popularity with his podcast around ten years ago. Excusing ridiculous beliefs in the interest of "hearing both sides" is nothing new — but this clip is truly jarring. **READ MORE:** *[Joe Rogan's Fans are Shredding Him for Being a Moron About Covid]()* **Literally though:** [*Joe Rogan Explains Anti-Vax Comments: "I'm Not a Doctor, I'm a F\*cking Moron"*]() ## Author At Futurism, I've often been drawn to unpacking the narratives that underlie technological, scientific and medical progress, with a special interest in areas of conflict and ambiguity that end up setting agendas and steering the fates of both elites and the hoi polloi. I'm a committed generalist, but I often find myself returning to work involving NASA and the private space sector, the effects of AI on media and society, and the mechanics of the pharmaceutical industry, with a specific focus on the spread of GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy. Prior to Futurism, I worked for publications ranging from Media Matters and Truthdig to Raw Story and Bustle. I'm also the author of "Myspace Scene Queens," a 2024 title in Instar Books' acclaimed "Remember the Internet" series. My work at Futurism has been cited by outlets including the New Yorker, Slate, Nieman Lab, the Verge, the MIT Technology Review, the Sunday Times, and the Daily Beast. I grew up in North Carolina, attended the University of North Carolina at Asheville, and now live in Brooklyn, New York. In my free time, I'm an avid reader and music fan; you can probably find me at a local poetry reading, concert, underground rave, or DJ set. I'm the proud parent of an ineffable orange cat named Mee-Mow. ### Author social links [Bluesky]()