---
title: "Google Refuses to Pull Website Responsible for Scores of Suicides"
description: "There's an extremely extremely disturbing site where users goad each other to commit suicide — and Google won't take it out of its search results."
date: "2021-12-10"
modified: "2021-12-10"
authors:
  - name: "Noor Al-Sibai"
    job_title: "Senior Staff Writer"
    link: "https://futurism.com/authors/nooralsibai"
url: "https://futurism.com/google-website-suicides"
categories:
  - "Artificial Intelligence"
  - "Future Society"
  - "Google"
tags:
  - "censorship"
  - "Google"
  - "public health"
  - "suicide"
---

# Google Refuses to Pull Website Responsible for Scores of Suicides

![There's an extremely extremely disturbing site where users goad each other to commit suicide — and Google won't take it out of its search results.](<https://futurism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/google-pull-website-teen-suicides.jpg>)
*\<em\>Image: Futurism \</em\>*

***You can [click here](<https://www.sprc.org/resources-patients-families-and-community-members>) for a list of resources from the Suicide Prevention Resource Center.***

There exists in the internet ether an extremely disturbing site where users goad each other to take their own lives — and according to Google, there's nothing it can do to remove the site from its search results.

A [stomach-turning deep dive in *The New York Times*](<https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/09/us/where-the-despairing-log-on.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUyYiZ_tU1Gw5CRWySB4B991rf37-XkfshnTjhLCWPRHNez-lQD4Wb407Mf6tlaJ432DveQ9kHMKMqQLY66N5jCHFXalvipIqYytNCIiMppJi6VX83wZ-KBb00-2fkNjb8cut0nvji7h-LdTG-WqbA2Hwmdlpl88M2fQn6ymVIkvmeapN93dR42_0rF8o6EW9GPH_WyqGuXxZuO9yGbgXf6R00U4xaUDLSnN2a4tEQYVkYSAKGHD4kvzFKuJ4LM8gXPa38MxYgZMH_5L0bAWZqJ4qibIYjM11LOmO4SUdRJNnSqyl7Jw&smid=url-share>) explores the site, which we won't be naming here. The story raises difficult questions about both ethics and censorship — and especially about Google, which has chosen to passively condemn the site while allowing it to remain a prominent hit in its search results.

Equal parts message board and macabre instructional manual, this site considers itself "pro-choice" — that is, pro- people having the choice to die by suicide, and access to information about how to do it, alongside a community that will help them do so without judging them or trying to help keep them alive.

Over the last two years that the site's been up, per the *Times*' count, at least 45 users have died by suicide, and likely many more. Many of them learned how from the site, got "support" from fellow users when their conviction to end their lives wavered, and even live-blogged their deaths.

Run by two late-twentysomething men who live thousands of miles apart in Alabama and Uruguay, the site sprung up [after Reddit closed a forum](<https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/incels-suicide-forum-woman-killed-herself>) with the same mission. The two operators were previously known by aliases, but were unmasked by the *Times*.

It's worth noting that there is a raging debate about assisted suicide, in which the terminally ill can access treatments to end their lives. That conversation is as heated as it is fraught, from the Kevorkian machines of the 1990s to the states and [countries](<https://futurism.com/neoscope/assisted-suicide-chamber-switzerland>) moving to legalize physician-assisted suicide.

The site highlighted by the *Times'* investigation, however, should not be part of that debate. Its targets, in contrast, are mostly-healthy people for whom the decision to end their lives is [almost certainly a gross miscalculation](<https://www.psychalive.org/busting-the-myths-about-suicide/>), which the *Times* made clear by refusing to include physician-assisted suicides in its charts mapping the sharp increase in suicides over the last two decades.

Regardless of one's personal beliefs about euthanasia and suicide — hell, regardless of your beliefs about censorship, either — the concept of arming a group of unwell people with specific information and support about ending their own lives is disturbing.

In many ways, this cursed suicide site represents the latest in a long string of problematic online material that provides people with information about all kinds of horrible things, from pro-anorexia blogs and ineffective COVID-19 treatments to forums for white nationalists and the "involuntary celibates" known as incels.

All three of those topics have prompted calls for tech companies like Google and Facebook to censor particularly horrible online content.

Often, they comply. Facebook, for example, is often [quick to try](<https://www.reuters.com/technology/facebook-removes-dozens-vaccine-misinformation-superspreaders-2021-08-18/>) (and [repeatedly fail](<https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/19/facebooks-improved-ai-isnt-preventing-harmful-content-from-spreading/>)) to filter out harmful material.

The situation at Google, and its parent company Alphabet, is more complex. Though it has removed [medical misinformation](<https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9891785?hl=en>) and [white supremacist content](<https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53230986>) hosted on YouTube, it takes a more hands off approach to content that it lists on the open web — as evidenced by this week's controversy.

"This is a deeply painful and challenging issue, and we continue to focus on how our products can help people in vulnerable situations," a Google spokesperson told Futurism. "If people come to Google to search for information about suicide, they see features promoting prevention hotlines that can provide critical help and support."

"We have specialized ranking systems designed to prioritize the highest quality results available for self-harm queries, and we also block Autocomplete predictions for those searches," she continued. "We balance these safeguards with our commitment to give people open access to information. We’re guided by local law when it comes to the important and complex questions of what information people should be able to find online."

That's a fairly fundamentalist position. The First Amendment may allow for the free speech of neo-Nazis and suicide advocates, but tech companies aren't governments. They can, in principle, take down whatever they want.

Google's slogan used to be "Don't be evil." It later [removed that phrase from the company's code of conduct in 2018](<https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393>) — and indeed, it feels as though there is a little room for evil in the company's search results.

*Updated to clarify that while Google has removed content hosted on YouTube, it does not have a history of deindexing controversial content on its search engine.*

**READ MORE:** [Where the Despairing Log On, and Learn Ways to Die](<https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/09/us/where-the-despairing-log-on.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUyYiZ_tU1Gw5CRWySB4B991rf37-XkfshnTjhLCWPRHNez-lQD4Wb407Mf6tlaJ432DveQ9kHMKMqQLY66N5jCHFXalvipIqYytNCIiMppJi6VX83wZ-KBb00-2fkNjb8cut0nvji7h-LdTG-WqbA2Hwmdlpl88M2fQn6ymVIkvmeapN93dR42_0rF8o6EW9GPH_WyqGuXxZuO9yGbgXf6R00U4xaUDLSnN2a4tEQYVkYSAKGHD4kvzFKuJ4LM8gXPa38MxYgZMH_5L0bAWZqJ4qibIYjM11LOmO4SUdRJNnSqyl7Jw&smid=url-share>) \[*The New York Times*\]

**More on assisted suicide, which this site is decidedly not about:** *[Assisted-Suicide Chamber Approved by Authorities in Switzerland](<https://futurism.com/neoscope/assisted-suicide-chamber-switzerland>)*

## Author
At Futurism, I've often been drawn to unpacking the narratives that underlie technological, scientific and medical progress, with a special interest in areas of conflict and ambiguity that end up setting agendas and steering the fates of both elites and the hoi polloi. I'm a committed generalist, but I often find myself returning to work involving NASA and the private space sector, the effects of AI on media and society, and the mechanics of the pharmaceutical industry, with a specific focus on the spread of GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy. Prior to Futurism, I worked for publications ranging from Media Matters and Truthdig to Raw Story and Bustle. I'm also the author of "Myspace Scene Queens," a 2024 title in Instar Books' acclaimed "Remember the Internet" series. My work at Futurism has been cited by outlets including the New Yorker, Slate, Nieman Lab, the Verge, the MIT Technology Review, the Sunday Times, and the Daily Beast. I grew up in North Carolina, attended the University of North Carolina at Asheville, and now live in Brooklyn, New York. In my free time, I'm an avid reader and music fan; you can probably find me at a local poetry reading, concert, underground rave, or DJ set. I'm the proud parent of an ineffable orange cat named Mee-Mow.

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